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TAXATION - disenfranchisement of non-taxpayers

No representation without taxation?

Being over-run by foreigners is not just a peculiarly British phenomenon, if you look at the US and the rest of the EU. People have been complaining about foreigners ever since people had legs to move around with. Neither are foreigners necessarily people of a different hue - merely people from somewhere else who are now with you whom you may wish would stay away.

Perhaps this is just the human equivalent of insects being attracted to uncovered food on a sunny summer's day. The simple solution would be of course to cover the food, but below are some possible reasons why this is not done:

· political correctness
· an unacknowledged addiction to cheaper, more willing and skilled foreign labour
· the existence of a Sacred Cow cradle to grave welfare state that discourages a work ethic
· a state education system that does not educate adequately
· a declining birth rate of legitimate productive citizens
· the unfair burden on working and married parents
· the increase in working and single motherhood
· five-yearly elections which give short-termist politicians a reason to avoid dealing with problems that need medium to long-term solutions, eg education and transport

BUT MOST OF ALL, perhaps ...
· the refusal to acknowledge that there is anything wrong with a corrupt and corrupting system of indiscriminate universal suffrage, which allows politicians to bribe the voters who take in welfare with the money of those who give in taxes ...
Vote: Should citizens who are not taxpayers be allowed to vote?

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Members Comments

lfbuk 20-Nov-2007 18:19
This is a nonsense question, no one cannot pay taxes, even if only buying from a shop, you pay taxes...
KScott 20-Nov-2007 17:23
Can't do a 'yes' or 'no' on this one. Too problematic. Tax revenue funds public service. WHY should those who do not or have NEVER contributed be able to dictate policy, through their votes, to those who DO? But again, what of pensioners - those who have contributed all their lives but are now, on state pension, too poor to be eligible for tax?
This should not be formed as a black and white alternative. It is a question that needs a lot of debate.
SimpleSimon 19-Nov-2007 14:4
As long as we have a couple of exceptions for the elderly and guenuine disbaled, I think this idea has legs. If you don't contribute to the economy through taxes, and are a burden through taking benefits, you have no 'interest' in being part of society, so you shouldn't be able to vote.
Tricks 16-Nov-2007 20:59
Far too simplistic an idea which would disenfranchise millions of British subjects who deserve to vote but are not tax payers.

A rankly stupid idea from start to finish
Herb 9-Nov-2007 22:39
Another difficult question. Perhaps the best answer is to let everybody have at least one vote, but to add extra weight to peoples' votes according to how much tax they pay?

One thing you can be reasonably sure of - it would tend to keep taxes lower because the more tax somebody pays, the more likely he is going to be to vote for a politician who will keep taxes as low as possible.....
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